I grabbed my first copy of the book A program in Miracles circa 2005. I needed heard it referenced by many with the spiritual teachers I became into at that time and figured I should probably look it over. Among my first memories of reading this course was on a healthcare facility bed while waiting for x-rays on my own ankle from your skateboarding accident. I remember reading the introduction, which said, “Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.” Sounds good right? Well I’d be completely full of shit if I said I’d some revelation, or really even any clue in regards to what that meant. It sounded neat and esoteric however, i really keep reading. After a couple of weeks, I squeeze Course aside since it was the same to reading the sunday paper coded in Chinese. I happily went back to reading my books by Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche….At the very least I could understand a lot of them, or at best pretend to when they talk about them.
Fast-forward to 2007. I used to be in a local library once i found a good book called Tricks of the Immortal: Advanced Teachings from a Course in Miracles. I’d again be lying only said I had any revelation from this audiobook, not because its content wasn’t sufficient, speculate I downloaded it to my computer and don’t heard it. Again, I went back to reading my others spiritual texts, now I’d advanced to the like of Ken Wilber & Sri Ramana Maharshi, definitely much harder to make believe you understand what these were saying in conversation, on the other hand tried.
One full year later, in 2008, for reasons uknown, I looked over my copy of the Course in Miracles and made the resolution i was going to finally make out the print, and not only make out the print, but realize it! Well, I’m able to say that on this occasion I bound to it, in most cases. I remembered the audiobook I’d ripped to my library the year before, and so i uploaded it to my trusty iPod and began playing it on various commutes. Tips for the Immortal actually broke the Course down in the comprehensive, yet user-friendly way that I really could use.
About 50 % way over the mp3 audio book I noticed I did not have any idea who I was listening too (damn bootlegged copies), therefore i returned to the computer and discovered out it had been Gary Renard. That name really meant not me at that time, nor did any of the other Course teachers like Kenneth Wapnick or Marianne Williamson, as this is not only a particularly popular spiritual path. Not because it is a rigid discipline, or there is certainly dogma attached to it. If something, it is the the complete opposite of that.
After completing Gary’s audio book, I shifted for the initially his two books published by Hay House, titled The Disappearance from the Universe. I acquired DU (because it is often referred to by it’s readers) and it was literally engulfed from the moment I began. Not simply that continue to breakdown the program in a manner that I possibly could understand, just about all talked about many contemporary issues, and just how they might be seen differently over the Course. I finished DU in approximately a week and acquired a reproduction of the Immortal Reality.
Your Immortal Reality really solidified my faith in Gary’s teachings as after I finished it, I needed simply no problem reading and understanding A training course in Miracles. It’s not to express I haven’t got to sit down with, and contemplate a lot of its passages from time to time, but without Gary’s work, my copy of the Course in Miracles would be collecting dust for the bookshelf. So just what inside the hell can be a Course in Miracles? Keep reading and pay attention to! (*Note- I’d like to reiterate even though A program in Miracles is my own, personal, personal spiritual path, I, certainly not, wish to promote, or endorse it over every other spiritual tradition, several of which happen to be wonderful catalysts in my spiritual path, and I still are from to this day.)
The Gary Renard Interview PT I of II
TIS: So let’s just get directly into it…As outlined by A training course In Miracles (also referred to as ACIM), the interview we both are doing right this moment is surely an illusion. Do you understand why for all those not familiar with ACIM’s teaching?
GR: Sure. People can consider the universe of your time and space to be a projection. Individuals who have read my books are aware that I prefer to navigate to the movies, plus an analogy I love to make are these claims, The year progresses into the cinema and i also want it to be real. The lights decrease and my attention is diverted for the screen. As I start to target the screen, I may get sucked in the story, possibly becoming emotional, or even talking to the screen. Therefore i forget that there is not necessarily anything happening there, that it is trick, a fantasy, a sleight of hand. The American Indians use to convey, “behold, the truly amazing mystery”. Well the program says “behold, the truly great mystery”, it says “behold, the truly great projection”. This is a projection originating from a projector, that is hidden. If you are inside a cinema, you’re not meant to consider the projector, you’re meant to that would be that while keeping focused on screen, which is what people do here too. They’re centering on the screen that individuals call life, plus they think it’s reality, but because the Hindu’s, Buddhist’s & ACIM says, it’s actually a fantasy. This course further refines that idea into this being wonderful that we’ll awaken from, and it’s that awakening that is the same in principle as enlightenment. It’s what Buddha meant while he said “I am awake”. He had actually awoken constitute the entire desire space and time.
Let’s quickly say I’m within the cinema and that i want to change what’s on the screen, not within a temporary way, but permanently. A means where I’m able to really have something happen that would work. Basically wished to change that which was with that screen, it would not do me an excessive amount of all set up and waste time from it. I would ought to remember that you will find there’s projector that’s hidden in the back, that I’m not supposed to consider that. Well, basically actually want to change what’s on screen in a permanent way, then not just would I have to understand that you will find there’s projector, I would also need to find it, and modify what’s in it.
Now if I could make it happen, I’d personally be managing the source, rather than the effect. I’d personally be originating from a position of power because I’d be doing something that perform permanently rather than only temporarily. It could deliver real power since i will be dealing with the cause, instead of the result, that is what are the Course teaches, that’s that it’s a course in cause, and not effect. What’s more, it says “seek to never affect the world, seek rather to change your mind concerning the world”. Like when you visit the mind, you’ll where the projector is hidden, where this universe of your energy and space is arriving from. What we’re seeing is on its way from your projector that’s actually hidden in the unconscious mind. That’s not me just talking about someone unconscious mind, which some people call the subconscious. I’m discussing the unconscious mind we all share. There’s only one of us sharing this unconscious mind which is in which the universe of energy and space is on its way from.
So think of it as being being a movie that you’re watching. The program says you’re revealing mentally what has recently gone by. So it will be already over as far as this course is concerned, and we’re just watching it. We’re feeling however, that we are actually in it, and the way out, is always to change what’s inside the mind based on the Course. It’s really a different way of forgiveness than many people think about however, which we’ll end up in. What exactly that does, could it be undoes this thing that I’ll call the “ego”. You can imagine the ego as being the notion of separation, the idea that we’ve taken on the guy identity as well as existence which is somehow separate from its source.
Our experience now, is the fact that we’re separate, that this body personifies. The world thinks like we’re in bodies, and apart from other individuals, as well as our source, which is God. In order to think about the ego because the thought of separation. Exactly what the Course along with other great spiritual teachings do is because undo the ego. That’s one of the things conditioned to me by my teachers from the Disappearance with the Universe along with your Immortal Reality. They educated me in the Course and what it means, using a huge selection of quotations as a result to show how it is actually saying. They did it in a way which i could go back and truly understand it’s teaching. Throughout their second visit, my teachers said that I would certainly buy my first copy in the Course, i really did, plus it made no sense if you ask me whatsoever. It might at the same time happen to be coded in an international language. After 7 or 8 visits at their store however, I really could return back and browse the program, also it actually made sense. Having seen that, I was thinking there were something there, which would definitely work.
So eventhough it took a very long time for the book to get ready, I bound to it. It absolutely was a labor of love. Irrrve never knew If it could be published or not, or exactly what the reaction will be. It’s since exercised well though. The thing my teachers educated me in was that salvation, because Course says, is undoing. The reason which is a brilliant approach happens because if you decide to undo the ego, the actual false you, if you could completely accomplish this job, then eventually the true you’d be all that’s left. The real you has nothing related to the universe of energy and space. The real you is exactly what this course would call spirit, however the Course uses words differently than it’s almost common knowledge them. Once the Course says “spirit”, it’s not referring to an idea of individuality. Many people imagine spirit as being the same in principle as the soul. You do have a soul and die, then there is this thing which goes on after you, which looks suspiciously such as the body you merely left. Well that’s still a concept of individuality and separation.
When ACIM uses the saying “spirit”, it is not referring to a thing that belongs to it, it’s talking about a thing that is the identical to its source, that is God. It’s referring to something may feel, which experience is exactly the just like being God. In reality, the Course describes it as the awareness of perfect oneness, therefore it is an experience you will get, while you look like here walking around in the body. The fastest strategy to obtain that experience is usually to undo the ego, which leaves you within a condition of spirit. At some time, the Course states that your brain is the activating agent of spirit. Therefore it is by choosing (which is where forgiveness is available in) how we think about people. We can easily opt to discover them being separate bodies, and if we do that, that’s how we’ll experience ourselves. If we consider them as being beyond their though, then we’re doing what are the Course suggests, which can be click beyond the veil, and overlooking one’s body. Eventually, we’ll arrive at experience our self being spirit, but that’s only when you imagine them to be nothing more than God, but alternatively, to be the entire thing.
There isn’t one speck of data in the universe of your energy and space that your unconscious system is not aware of. It really knows everything. It would have to have access because it is projecting the universe of time and space, so that it will have to supply of the information that is contained inside it. Now, one of the things your unconscious mind knows, is always that there exists only certainly one of us. We believe we have six billion folks, with millions of decisions to choose from, and trillions of objects from the universe of your energy and space. The truth is though, no matter how many times you divide and subdivide, there’s really only certainly one of us that thinks it’s here. There’s only this one ego that thinks it’s separated itself by reviewing the source and brought about this personal identity and individual existence. There’s only one ego that thinks it’s here, and you’re simply it, it isn’t really another person, there is not anybody else.
The rest is exactly what the Hindu’s call the field of multiplicity. It’s literally a sleight of hand, a fantasy. So we’ve been tricked with this thing, I’m calling the ego, since there is something we don’t be familiar with it. The ego likes this idea of separation. It wants to keep it up, given it feels important & special. It’s like Jesus’ prodigal son story- he leaves his fathers house, sounding by himself as they thinks he can fare better, which actually is a mistake. All of that he finds is scarcity, so you can’t have scarcity in heaven because everything you have is surely an awareness of perfect oneness, that we mentioned earlier. From the condition of perfect oneness, you’ve got all of it, and also you can’t have scarcity for those who have everything. You additionally can’t have death if you have perfect oneness. It’ only when you will find the split from that perfect oneness that you create opposites as well as the potential for an opposite alive, that’s death, as well as the possibility of another to abundance, that’s scarcity.
So everything you’re seeing is dependant on duality. This is exactly why it says from the book of Genesis, you shall not eat in the tree of knowledge of proper and evil, for the entire day you take in of it, you shall die. Well good and evil are opposites, and when you have opposites, you can have death. You cannot have death where there no opposites though, which explains why ACIM says right in it’s introduction, the contrary of love is fear, what ‘s all encompassing, that’s obviously God, will surely have no opposite. Just what exactly you want to do is go back to a location its keep isn’t such thing as opposites, and then there isn’t death or scarcity. Which is the thought of going home that Jesus is trying to convey from the prodigal son story. Eventually the prodigal son realized he made a mistake, that is that he had left, knowning that normally the one decision he previously to generate was to go home, that she did. You see and in that story, the prodigal son has a lot of strange ideas about himself. He thinks he’s guilty, and contains ideas that he’s committed a sin against his father, and isn’t worthy to get called God’s on. So according to him, well maybe easily go back home I will start in the bottom and work my in place among His servants and get back in his good graces. What the prodigal son doesn’t seem to comprehend is that God doesn’t share any sexual affair ideas about him.
Both the Bible and ACIM say God is perfect love, so if perfect love in fact is perfect love, then everything that God will know how to do is love. If he knew the way to be angry, wrathful or judgmental, then it would not be perfect love. What ACIM does is give us a God that really is great love and that God wants is perfect for us into the future home. The rest of the ideas, because the Course puts it, are the own nightmare , nor exist. So in that sense, it is actually a goal of guilt and separation that we are having. The idea is always to undo that with the procedure for forgiveness in places you see people being this perfect spirit, since your unconscious mind knows everything, and something of the things that it knows is that there actually is one of us. So whatever you think about somebody else, it’s not visiting them, it’ll you. Your unconscious mind will interpret that it is message of your stuff, to you, and about you, because it is aware that there exists only certainly one of us.
There is a essential law from the mind which is articulated within a Course In Miracles that’s simple, but true. It says, “As the thing is that him, you will notice yourself”, so whatever you’re thinking about another person is really just likely to you. It will likewise determine how you’re feeling with regards to you and finally what you consider you happen to be. You’ll be able to feel that you’re body which you’re separate, additionally, you can feel that you’re this perfect spirit that’s exactly the same as God. In accordance with the Course, brain is the activating agent of spirit and that’s the best way to actually make positive changes to experience with life, coming from a condition of depression with a state of happiness. You gradually move over for the connection with being spirit.
The ironic thing is you can still need your life. You won’t need to give anything up, you will still live an average life and also have a great time. Should you meet someone and just fall in love, and would like to get married, do it now. I just got married myself last year. Whatever is front of one’s face will be for one of two purposes. You can either judge it, or forgive it. There will be when you don’t need to forgive anything. The main focus of ACIM is not on forgiving romantic a walks on the beach or music or art. The focus with the Course is on forgiving the negative emotions that can up.
This course also says that anger is never justified. This doesn’t happen say that you may never get angry, I will virtually promise you will. It lets you do say that it is rarely justified and the sooner which you do not forget that, the less you’ll suffer. The reason anger is never justified is really because the pain you are seeing can be a projection that is certainly coming from you. You’re one that managed to get up and place the individuals there, it suited you these phones exist. That may seem challenging to believe to start with, but that is precisely what it suited you. The guilt you felt over separating from God can be considered being outside of you, as an alternative to within you. This is the whole reason for projection. A psychologist would tell you just how whatever is denied, should be projected. Well what we’re looking at in the universe of your energy and space is in fact something that is symbolic of separation, yet it’s with different massive metaphysical denial prior to time began, prior to what were the Big Bang from the universe of energy and space.
There were these things any particular one ego felt very guilty about, and in what way that that ego thought it could possibly remove that guilt was to deny it. Once it absolutely was denied, it was projected outwards that is certainly the place that the projection is on its way from. The way home is to undo the projection, which once again means that the program states that salvation is undoing. So by undoing it, eventually that have of separation disappears. You come towards the experience of perfect oneness and you then are enlightened, and as the Course puts it, time arrive if you are scheduled to view of here. So you’ll lay the body aside for your final time, also, since there is no ego, there is no basis for you to definitely return. So that perfect oneness with God turns into a prominent experience for you personally, if you lay your body aside for your final serious amounts of simply return home. Then the experience with perfect oneness becomes your permanent reality.
TIS: Phew. I’ve read your books, and paid attention to your audio books numerous times, that is certainly still much to consume. There’s a deep truth that resonates for me personally though while you speak however.
GR: Yeah, the program says a great deal, but you’ll find that everything the program says, all fits together, kind of just like a hologram.
GR: You could say that the program will give you two complete and mutually exclusive thought systems. You have the thought system from the Holy Spirit, which is exactly about love and forgives, and also becoming love yourself with your experience, and the way you gaze at others, that will naturally bring about you treating others with love. Then you need the ego thought system, that is exactly about judgment and condemnation. The Course says it is possible to only do a couple of things. It says, “He who would not forgive, must judge, for she must justify his failure to forgive”. So if you’re not likely to forgive someone, then you’ve got to produce up an entire story about why they are not worthy of your forgiveness, and yes it would take a shorter period only to forgive them.
One of many other activities I like about the Course is it actually provides you with a means home, a way because of this mess. That’s not me saying you should not have fun here while you are here, it is just that this person is temporary, it will not last. People think it is extremely valuable, but exactly how valuable can something be when it’s temporary and it’s not gonna last? A good thing technology-not only for would be to learn and communicate, and share the truth with people. Now you ask ,, how’s it going going to utilize the time that you’re here. A few times the program asks the gender chart for, regarding what you’re seeing… what is it for? Well, it’s for forgiveness because by forgiving, you undo the ego as well as your experience will alter, and an improved experience. It is actually better to be considered a spirit when compared to a body. It’s better to be considered a butterfly than the usual caterpillar, it is a less restricted life form along with a good quality of life. It’s really a win-win situation.
You may still have your lifetime and pretend that you are a doctor, or a racecar driver, or do what I do, and pretend you’re spiritual teacher and go across the world and talk to people. My teachers Arten and Pursah told me that regardless of a few things i do, my real job is forgiveness and anything else is simply cover job. The forgiveness opportunities should come up for folks, and they also can be found in a number of forms. The program claims that the ideal lesson is obviously prior to you, though this is seldom recognized. So it will be no mystery what you are likely to forgive, which is whatever is correct facing your face. These are lessons that the Holy Spirit wants you to learn, and forgive.
It is not always fun because a whole lot of duality. You are going to have both fun times and bad while you’re here. There’s no getting away from that because this is a whole lot of opposites. So there will probably be times where you need to forgive, and occasions when you won’t, as you’re enjoying yourself which enable it to just “celebrate” since the Course says. ACIM can be a happy way of spirituality. It references the happy dream and as a happy learner. One of several ten characteristics of a teacher of God is joy. So this isn’t an suffering, morose form of spirituality. It is not even a religion. ACIM can be a self-study course. It’s done between your Holy Spirit or else you and Jesus, or whatever you wish to think of it as. Jesus could be the teacher inside the Course. He speaks in first person and it’s really clear it had become given by him. So this is a pleasant type of spirituality, and I think it is changing the way in which people consider the historical Jesus.
I’m happy to notice that nowadays any time you decide to go into Unity Churches, otherwise you visit to my place, there’s a drawings and paintings of Jesus, and he’s laughing and smiling, and that is the best way he to be real. He wasn’t some suffering, unhappy guy. He had a sense humor anf the husband was married to Mary Magdalene. He’d normal relationships, and friends and so they partied after they wanted too. They’d visit a wedding celebration that may last 21 days because that is the way things were back then. I believe you receive a more accurate view of what life was like at that time Jesus lived by reading the Old Testament, more than one does reading the brand new Testament because that is what it truly was like. You read things like Solomon and it’s pretty racy stuff. There’s lots of sexual things mentioned. The stuff about being puritans and goody two shoes came after Jesus. It didn’t have anything to do with what life was like when he was running around. All the was developed up with the church because they wanted comprise a faith plus they did.
The content of Jesus got completely lost and converted into its opposite, which is a message of suffering and sacrifice, that is certainly not what he was about at all. He concerned eliminate suffering and sacrifice. Probably the best illustration would be the fact he couldn’t feel any pain at the end of his life. As ACIM puts it, the guiltless mind cannot suffer, and Jesus’ mind ended up completely healed by the Holy Spirit, so he’d no guilt as part of his mind, which meant he couldn’t suffer, which also resulted in he couldn’t feel any pain. Which means this whole proven fact that somehow he suffered and sacrificed himself for your sins is not related to him. It’s a comprised theology by the apostle Paul. In reality, it’s Paul’s theology, that’s the basis of Christianity. It is not based on the teachings of Jesus.
Out of your tender you’ve got a Jesus who could forgive anybody, even when they were killing him, but nowadays you have the “Christians” who can’t forgive individuals who have done absolutely nothing to them? You will find there’s contradiction here. It’s really a convoluted type of Jesus. I do think one of the reasons my books, and ACIM did so well, and i think will continue to, because the Course will be around for the thousand years, happens because at the conclusion of the afternoon it seems sensible. It is a complete thought system. All this fits together and is also depending on love and forgiveness.
If you have a look at some of the old Greek texts, from the beginning of Christianity, they employed to say (regarding the early Christians), “you’ll know them by their love”. The initial concise explaination the saying “repent” in Greek is around a change of mind. It’s not about clearing up your respond to how much the globe. It’s really at the level of your brain and about an alteration of mind. That was the first idea, given that they did get some of what Jesus was saying back then. ACIM is perhaps all done in the a higher level mental performance, because this is the level of cause, and the world is just the effect. That’s not me stating that you cannot contain it, and luxuriate in it, but at the end of the afternoon it’s really a temporary experience.
It’s just what the Buddhist’s call impermanence, also, since it’s impermanent and temporary, you can’t find any permanent satisfaction or happiness there. It is really simple to find permanent happiness in changing your characteristic look in the world though, which again is why the Course says, “seek to never alter the world, seek rather to change your mind regarding the world”. And when you do that you’ll be managing how much cause instead of the effect, that is very important.
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